Yeah $24 for a lifetime subscription you really can’t beat that
That isn’t sustainable though.
Windscribe is based in Canada, so technically it’s the 5 eyes but who’s counting lol… basically the same thing I suppose.
Oh my apologies, didn’t realise I had Proton Drive through TestFlight!
Yes, I am still thinking of buying unlimited package. At least I have 30 days for refund. I had also few more questions which I asked Proton directly, waiting for response and will decide 
But full security, nice mail, storage seems like real deal.
Yeah plus you should try the new Stealth Protocol…[edit] - It is [not “isn’t”] brilliant and absolutely does what they claim. I’ve detailed it in my other comment but the TLDR is this; the network I’m on blocks VPN’s and even Google analytics to an almost problematic point (though I do not like Google, it means that pages they are on which is many, many, many pages are just slapped down immediately. The Proton Stealth Protocol just walks straight through like it’s nothing. My other explanation (educated guess/ partial analysis) is far from definitive or even 90% accurate but it’s a fairly good description of how I believe it works.
That’s my point. All traffic coming from the VPN will be from just you. That doesn’t seem good to me.
Any legitimate company will do that. The question to ask is how hard is it to get data out of that company.
France called Europol and Europol is only called when facing terrorism or drug trafficking on a high level. Do you think Proton or any company will deny a continent wide anti criminal organisation?
Also then Proton didn’t provide any email content. They didn’t even have IP address. Proton was directed to store IP addresses for any future emails doing to and fro from that one particular protonmail account. Also this law cannot be used for Protonvpn. VPNs fall under slightly different laws in Switzerland.
Some providers transparently show node locations: https://strongvpn.com/vpn-regions/
If your location is close to a node and the load is fair, your performance is likely to be much better.
Some providers offer support for a country but the node resolve may actually be much further away.
Proton, for example, offers services in 64 countries with about 1,850 nodes.
Nord only offers 58 countries, but it has about 5,650 nodes.
A Wireguard connection should be extremely fast. For reference, my current Wireguard ping results are in the 5-10ms range which includes a custom filter and DNS resolve.
Around 50 would be fair/below average. My experience with Proton was almost triple that range with intermittent spikes and drops. As an inexperienced user you’ll feel like it’s the nature of a VPN or your fault. It’s not. It should be extremely fast.
Proton support put me through an endless web of “tech support” but in fact there are technical limitations beyond their control. So don’t waste your time troubleshooting bad performance with them. Morally shameful.
Some users report very good results. Just don’t be misled. “Supported country” does not mean good performance. If it’s bad it is a technical limitation and troubleshooting it is pointless.
Since VPNs are functionally almost identical, just choose one that meets your security needs and prioritize performance. The region and node locations matter a lot. They all use the same variations of protocols (IKEV, IPSEC, WIREGUARD, OPENVPN, etc.)
edit: MKEV → IKEV
I didn’t say it was sustainable, I said it was a good deal… Regardless, they don’t even do lifetime subscriptions anymore.
I was simply saying that the user asking got a good deal…
My comment clearly states Proton is the better deal overall for all you get, but windscribe has its perks as well.
oh my bad. But yeah, same thing
That’s what I believe VPN suppose to help you with, a private encrypted connection, so no one can read any sensitive data transmitted. It’s a private network, end-to-end.
Good point.
Also I am curious why ProtonVPN has not so good reviews on Youtube. In comparison, every reviewer recommends Nord over Proton. Like it is faster, better features, cheaper.
The new Stealth Protocol is extremely impressive and worked immediately as I have detailed in my other comment.
Works reasonably well but doesn’t have heaps of features. Enough to work as a file access suite but not like a productivity suite, if that makes sense? Finder integration exists (which helps) but isn’t yet reliable for writing larger amounts of data (in my testing). Still a work in progress but a promising one
I think you’re talking about different things. You’re talking about privacy of the data…Mysterious_Soil1522 is pointing out the privacy of the user, not specifically the data. They are pointing out that if there is 1 IP reaching out and is detected by the website or someone wants to trace it back, you are the only possible end of the line. It’s like a bitcoin tumbler which only you use. In the same way…(and quite ironically), it’s often easier to identify a unique user based on how unique their browser/system fingerprint is. If you are the 1 single person who has enabled a very specific variety of security features along with browser window size and graphics rendering, the way font is displayed and so many more identifiers but then there are millions of people with seemingly less secure browsers all using default settings; you’re fingerprint is now in a very small group or even unique as opposed to being a needle in the proverbial haystack. Security and privacy are not the same, though they certainly do overlap, so ultimately if you set up the most secure VPN on the planet and it’s unique…then you can be blocked very easily. If you take steps to mitigate against it, we’ll now you’ve started a VPN business. Correct me if I’m wrong but I believe that’s the long version of what Mysterious_Soil1522 was pointing out.
Nord, Surfshark, Express etc spend a lot of money on advertisement and they also provide affiliate links to YouTubers.
Whereas Proton, IVPN, Mullvad don’t do that so they are not recommended by most “viral” YouTubers. Good channels like Techlore always recommend them though.
It’s a general recommendation to never buy products who sponsor YouTubers cause there are always better alternatives available.
PopJellyTart is absolutely correct. One thing I’ve found is if you really pay attention to a lot of those YouTube comparison videos, they almost always make literally no sense in there final decision as to which is better. For example, I have watched multiple comparison or “VPN vs VPN” videos where it’s let’s say Express or NordVPN vs Non-Sponsored VPN, & just about every time the entire comparison will clearly show that the VPN being compared to Nord, Express, or any other highly sponsored/advertised VPN is actually much better… I’ve watched through many comparison videos & I’ve seen each detail explained thoroughly side by side, but by the end of the video they almost always still say something like, “So my pick & recommendation is NordVPN because they have more servers & Live Chat Support” and they leave out all the other details that they just went over, the details that clearly show that the other, Non Sponsored VPN is actually the clear winner. It’s almost confusing to watch… The fact that you can clearly see which is better through all details explained but then just decide that “Highly Sponsored VPN” is better because they have more servers is mind blowing. Most people don’t need 20 billion servers & it certainly shouldn’t be the deciding factor in which VPN you choose. Those videos are clearly sponsored & you really have to take it for what it is, really pay attention to the details & not just what they say at the end of the video. Because they’re almost always lying just to appease their sponsor & make commissions from their affiliate links.
Wireguard is the foundation of Stealth… So it should work well. Surfshark’s Camouflage, Vypr’s Chameleon, etc. are similar concepts.
I’m honestly not sure about items, like bitcoin tumbler you brought up. I’m not yet familiar with that. Anyway…re VPN…at the basic level, provides privacy and security. See more of the benefits of VPN as per Norton, https://us.norton.com/blog/privacy/benefits-of-vpn.
Here is another resource I believe will be beneficial for those interested in more online privacy. I quote from DigitalOcean, “The safest VPN is the one your run yourself.” See this link from DigitalOcean, for more. https://www.digitalocean.com/solutions/vpn
DigitalOcean, by the way, is a great resource with many helpful tutorials for running your own online services. The sky is the limit. There are many other providers, of course, but DigitalOcean has been my goto site for learning about running your own servers in the cloud.
There’s a plethora of information on online privacy on the web. Search engines are one of our best friends. I hope this is helpful for anyone wanting to browse the web with more privacy and security.
Ok, thanks again.
Do you use plus or unlimited ?