Why I'm canceling

  1. No wireguard. There’s no real justification for not offering this on linux. I’m sure I could dump the config information out of your app, but I’m not going to. You basically don’t want to offer it.

  2. You offer servers in my country, no. They route outside the country. Same for another neighboring country. Routes through another (same as above) country before going somewhere. So, you’re not advertising your address block at the local internet exchanges. I can see that from their route servers.

So, there’s no reason to continue with you. kthx bye.

Thanks for your feedback. We’re sorry to hear that you won’t be continuing with VyprVPN.

  1. Right now, Wireguard is supported through the VyprVPN app on major platforms (Windows, Mac, Android, and iOS). We will likely add Wireguard configurations for Linux and other platforms in the future.
  2. It’s true that not all of our servers are physically located in their respective countries. While we are open about this fact, we also understand that it may be disappointing to some users. All of our IPs do geolocate correctly to their respective countries, though. For a little more info about how we choose our server locations, please see our blog post here.
  1. To add support for other platforms, you already added support for linux. Exactly what OS are your servers running? Or are you shelling our for some expensive enterprise VPN? Nah, I didn’t think so.

  2. Open how? You go to your website, you look at server locations, it shows dots on countries you don’t have servers in. And the three I looked at were all in the same very small netblock. Ok. I decided to bite and see how you explained geolocating single IP addresses within a netblock to different countries and it’s just nonsense. You’re just peering at an IX, maybe. I’d have to go look at the route servers to even see what you’re doing there. I did notice, though, that you weren’t comfortable being inside china, but I guess Hong Kong is ok? That’s where the servers I checked ended up being located. You are aware of the suppression of democracy and surveillance state it is now, right?

Look, you’re not being honest, and I know it. Wireguard originated on Linux, and the setup from client to client is basically as complicated as OpenVPN. You need to exchange two keys and point the client at a server. It’s the same everywhere. You are just choosing not to do it.

Absolutely. They want to enforce use of their client, maybe they are making money collecting user data on the client? I dont see any other explanation?

Just point us to a web page where we can download those few information needed to setup the wireguard client on linux.

If you wont do it, just tell it, so we find another provider.

I think there are a couple of factors that I know of involved. Everyone is trying to brand their VPN as doing something special with some product name and then no really explaining what it is. If you’re familiar with the world of crypto, that kind of obscurity usually does not end well. Crypto is hard, and you want things that have had many eyes on them looking for flaws.

Secod, I think there’s some motivation for not giving fast VPN access to Linux clients in particular because they’re likely to use more bandwidth. OpenVPN is dog slow–especially on OpenWRT etc. It’s too easy to turn a linux machine into a router. This is why nordvpn does provide a nordlynx package for linux, but then uses it to lock down the routing table. You can clear all of that out, but it takes more than your average linux user to figure all of it out and script it up properly. Second, they’re also pushing NordLynx as some advanced tech, but ti’s just wireguard. Their bin’s write a wireguard config file, bring up the connection, and then delete it. They use basic interface renaming to call it nordlynx and you’re supposed to ignore the wg threads running in the kernel.

ExpressVPN’s lightway appears to be wolfssl based, and was more problematic for me, but they really weren’t hostile in the way that it works. Because I’m not their target package crowd I tried to write a derivation for it and kind of hit a wall. I did find a docker container for it and chained on a socks proxy and send things through socks when I want. Generally I feel more comfortable with them than Nord for some reason, I don’t know. It all eventually scratched my itch.

Well, it depends on your needs. If you just need something that is not as bad as OpenVPN, expressvpn has proven to be pretty nice. If you do really want wireguard, NordVPN has it–they just call it nordlynx. You can use their client which hides the info, or you can strace their software and capture the wireguard info from there. It will write out a config file, connect, and then quickly delete the config file.