Is VPN cheating?

I mean I see ALOT of streamers telling people they are using vpns, I am currently crimson but while platinum and again in diamond I was flung into games with top 250 players (who I believe were cheating and probably should name and shame) and wondering if people think that this is caused by VPN? I don’t use VPN or Cronus or anything other than a ps5 controller, and before these cheats became so widely used I was hitting 15 kills in every second game, now I’m struggle to hit 10s, sometimes even 5 :man_shrugging:t3:

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Pretty sure I’ve seen activision state somewhere that VPN software can trigger bans but haven’t looked into it at all.

Anything that manipulates the game for the purpose of getting an advantage is cheating. There can be situations where a VPN isn’t cheating. But for 90% of the use case, people use vpns to cheat.

Technically yes, it is a form of cheating as the intent of a VPN is to persuade the game into providing matches where you are more favored to play well. Is it in the same vein as walling/aim-botting? No, not even close. It is also not guaranteed to provide you low-skilled lobbies for you to dominate, it is simply shrinking the pool of players that you get matched with. You still need to be a significantly above-average player in order to fully reap the benefits.

Might be, but I disable my VPN before gaming bcs it fucks up my internet connection.

Can anyone explain to me how (if true) VPN’s are supposed to get bot lobbies? I really only know of using VPNs to change your location (among hiding info from an ISP). How is changing your location going to impact your lobbies? Is it to exploit like a time zone where maybe there are more kids vs. adults online? Are there countries that are actually considerably worse than others? Does it trick SBMM? I genuinely want to know as I regularly hear VPNs are used to get bot lobbies but cannot think of how that would work.

Depending on the answer to the above, it would impact my answer. They have made it clear it’s against the TOS so its technically cheating, but without knowing more it would be hard to tell. If it messes with SBMM in an anti-competitive way, I would consider it cheating, but still cheating lite.

I read it in some article in my news feed yesterday, it quoted a popular Twitter that was discussing this. Activison clearly states in its ToS that using VPN is against the rules.

I can’t find it, but I’ve been following all kinds of news about the recent bans and the Twitch people who are making a fuss over unlock tools. Did find this though.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warzone/comments/u4oeyy/perma_banned_for_using_a_vpn/

https://www.reddit.com/r/activision/comments/173kbov/perma_banned_for_using_vpn/

I really don’t care as long as they kill the aim bots. This game is pointless when somebody kills you on redeploy with a pistol before you can see people on the ground.

I have to disagree, I have watched enough clips of streamers using VPN to get clips of killing teams where they are facing the walls etc while being wiped by 1 person, I have seen enough streamers telling you on stream they are using certain Vpns etc specifically for this reason. I mean I know when I’ve got a bot lobby myself which is extremely extremely rare but not as often as these streamers get :man_shrugging:t3:

Actually you just can change your location to find game in for some regions where players not that sweaty, cause you make connection as a #1 priority while you searching the game, and searching game for your Skill back to background, because the game don’t want take all of your time to find a game with good connection & and strickt SBMM in exact region, so game let you play in any skill lobbies. But most of time is your a 1.5>K/D players you probably will not feel the difference in lobbies, especailly when you playing Trios,Quads. And aslo VPN not guarentee that every game will be bot lobbies.
For me, I tried different VPNs but it don’t really notice a huge differences for me, regulary Im playing on EU servers with 40-60ms, and its really sweaty lobby when people playing like they fight for their life or if they won they will get a millions of cash. But sometimes is got ping 20-30ms and lobbies full out of kids whos playing WZ for first time and its easy to drop 20+ kills. So it’s there is no a real profit from VPN at all, and using it to avoid SBMM somehow for Devs ist - cheating, cause you actually break their system, but otherside they also said - PING is the King so, if you have troubleshooting with your connetions to some of their “BEST AND STABLE 2$ SERVERS” - using VPN is for your comfort

It wont, you need special software to help. Check out youtube, they say it’s not hard but takes forever to find a match. But at least you’ll be able to play with nixstah!

Somebody’s going to correct me, because my understanding is basic, but here’s my understanding.

It circumvents SBMM so people who have been playing forever get easier lobbies.

It “hides” your past records and k/d to trick the game into thinking you’re new. This technically (to activison) means you’re spoofing.

Because it navigates around the SBMM which is the reason I’m getting top 250 in my lobby. It’s the reason the streamers have clips of killing 25 bots in a game. I don’t doubt there are people who do this regularly but the heavy majority are using VPN to get bot lobby’s and could drop countless names of streamers who have said this on stream :man_shrugging:t3:

Yeah the violations of the ToS is what I had seen too!

That is the only thing I could come up with to actually effect the game. If that is true, in a game with SBMM, this feels like cheating, or at the very least anti-competitive.

If you hide your weight in a UFC or boxing match, and then get placed with lower weight classes, that feels wrong, and that feels analogous.

Its not on the level of walls or aimbot, but it still feels like cheating.

I searched hard, and lots of places (that are trying to sell you their services) will tell you it’s not banned.

Then I can find all kinds of people saying they got banned for doing it.

Activison refers to it as spoofing from what I can find.

Let’s say you play Twitch. You’re good enough to get people to watch you, but as your skills climb the SBMM puts you into tougher lobbies because you’re winning.

Using the VPN fools the server into thinking you’re newer with no wins, so SBMM puts you into lobbies of the newest players.

Now you’ve got access to less skilled players at the touch of a button, you can continue to have a watchable stream because it would be really boring to stream you play with people at your skill level.

That’s what I’m reading, but I’m learning as I go.

Activison is similar to the government. They believe the rules they set up are to make sure everybody’s happy and healthy. NEITHER of them likes it when you avoid the rules.

I am horrible at this game and still see people cheating 1/3 matches, even in my garbage lobbies. I wish they’d take more time to eliminate wall hackers than deal with this but I don’t know the programming mechanics behind that at all.